![]() |
Comments on this story Comments have now been closed for this article
Posted by ahire on January 07 2008, 14:37 PM GMT Not walking is not cheating- true.Switch to post match press conference of the sixth ODI at Mumbai.Murali Karthik says he nicked it.Ricky Ponting comes along and says '' it would have been nice if he had walked''. So, what about now?. The Indian team has not raised the issue of players not walking, just bad umpiring. Ponting says catches were taken. They clearly were not.So, either Ponting has lost it, or, he is ''cheating'', and then talks about integrity. Harbhajan and Lee have an exchange.They don't have a problem.Symonds walks in''standing up for my team-mate''.What a load of crap.....The Australians are very competetive and good cricketers.But when they start losing, they fear their pants are coming lose.In any case, they have no dignity left anymore........ Posted by bradw on January 07 2008, 13:15 PM GMT We might well say that any batsman who doesn't walk when they know they are out or a fielder that claims a catch when there could be some doubt about the validity of their claim are cheat but how often do we see bowlers appealling for LBW when it is blatantly obvious that it is not out. The appeal is a request for the umpire to adjuciate. A batsman is well within the laws of the game to stand his ground when caught, even when hit to mid-wicket to await an appeal from the fielding team. As far as these element of our game go, no team who plays the game can claim innonce to all of these methods of "cheating" or "persuading the official". Posted by SJW.London on January 07 2008, 12:20 PM GMT Spot on Martin Williamson. If not walking is cheating, then failing to recall a batsman wrongly given out is cheating too. When, as a matter of course, captains start recalling batsmen who they or their team-mates know are not out, then batsmen can start walking as a matter of course. Cricket is a team game. If a batsman is given not out after an edge, it is his duty to the team (not to his personal average) to bat on and make as many runs as he can on behalf of a team mate who was wrongly given out (or who may be wrongly given out later in the innings, or the match). It's just a game. But play to win and take the knocks on the chin. Accept the bad decisions with the good grace you expect of your opponents. Posted by LarryD on January 07 2008, 11:57 AM GMT I am not sure how accurate it is for the author to claim that not walking isn't cheating. However, one thing is for sure, not walking is certainly *NOT* honorable. Any self-respecting batsman should walk if he knows that he is out. There is no honour in staying at the crease merely due to a lucky reprieve received from an erring umpire. Posted by amicus on January 07 2008, 11:46 AM GMT Not walking is not illegal, but it is definitely not in the spirit of the game. Cricket should be played at the highest standards of integrity and not at the level of convicts and in-mates. Pointing to the attitudes of illustrious but dis-honest cricketing personalities is no justification for how the game should be played. If cricket was meant to be only a contest to be won or lost, then test matches, the original form of cricket would always have run to conclusion and not drawn off at the end of fifth day. The very fact that a test match is allowed to be drawn is testament to the fact that there is more to this game than just winning or losing it. Posted by Fogdog10 on January 07 2008, 10:50 AM GMT Following on to my previous post. He new what he did should have been penalised.....millions witnessed it on the TV replays but the guys there at the time who could penalise him "Didn't see it .........what would the golfing authorities do ? Would any world class golfers do that ? I think its fare to say that cricket can now be taken out the catergory as a gentleman's sport when executive cricket writers are writing articles justifying cheating. Posted by Hoppers on January 07 2008, 10:37 AM GMT Cricket has for years not been a gentleman's game. It centers around baking the right sponge-cake with the ideal filling and appropriate icing. So the contents of the recipe are as follows: 1. Appointment of umpires and refs etc. 2. Minimum of three press conferences pre-test, praising ability and sportmanship of opposing team by both captains. 3. 10 excellent decisions by umpires. 4. 1 batsman walking before umpire's decision. 5. 5 questionable decisions falling 4:1 against one of the teams. 6. Result achieved in last over of 5th day. Method: 1. Stir in umpires with ability and sportsmanship of both teams 2. Then add 10 excellent decisions and the batsman walking. 3. Allow to settle and rise. 4. Add the questionable decisions and see how the result falls. 5. If the team wins in spite of the dodgy decisions against them you have a perfect sponge cake. 6. If that team is defeated, one is left with all the garbage currently being written. Posted by akelumw on January 07 2008, 10:29 AM GMT For Indians who say not walking is cheating, wind ur memory back to the 3rd ODI in 1997 against Sri Lanka. Ajay Jadeja had clearly nicked the ball off Sajeewa de Silva. The debutant umpire Prof. Sharma had raised his finger to rule Jadeja out but Jadeja didn't care at all & didn't look at the umpire. Then prof. Sharma just touched his hat with that raised finger & JAdeja went on to make a 50. In this case although the umpire had ruled Jadeja out he didn't care & funny thing was umpire had turned his decesion back as the batsman wanted. Wat u call that. Cheating or even worst. those kind of players & backbonless umpires that India had produced over the years. Posted by sri1ram on January 07 2008, 10:28 AM GMT Gentlemanly behaviour and Australians? I am not saying that Aussies cannot be gentlemen, but in cricket their own contention of "playing hard, fair cricket" that tests the limits of competing teams does not allow for any kind of gentlemanly norms. And there may well be an Aussie definition of Genteel behavior as Ponting declared before the game and then displayed it for all to see - it appeared like a contradiction or hypocrisy this time. So why beat around the bush, just follow the umpire's decisions and hope for the best, as the author amply justifies. Posted by oldmanofsea on January 07 2008, 10:17 AM GMT To Slip51, surely you must think yourself to be a better expert on catches than Ian Chappel, Sunil Gavaskar and probably everybody else in the world. Before you start shooting out of your mouth again, do a little research. Go and check the laws on catching (http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-32-caught,58,AR.html). It has the following two points that might interest you. 1)The act of making the catch shall start from the time when a fielder first handles the ball and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control both over the ball and over his own movement. 2) The striker is out Caught if a ball delivered by the bowler, .... is subsequently held by a fielder as a fair catch before it touches the ground. Ponting and Clarke, when they were rolling were not in control of their movements. And they grounded the ball as they were rolling. Hence, the catch was not completed. QED
|
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| |||
|