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Posted by ChinmayD on July 18 2008, 20:34 PM GMT I wonder how many people outside the UK will actually be interested in watching the EPL. One of the reasons for the success of IPL outside India was the distribution of stars, particularly the foreign contingent. There is no way ECB are going to find 60 foreign stars to play in EPL. There aren't that many "stars" in World Cricket in the first place. Posted by sap1979 on July 18 2008, 10:09 AM GMT As an Indian I feel very good that other fellow Indians are wishing well to the ECB for being successful with their new venture. I wonder how many from the west had such intentions when the IPL was about to start. Posted by PierreLebrun on July 17 2008, 13:12 PM GMT Who are you trying to kid CMJ? You got it consistently wrong on ODIs, you're way behind on T20. You fall into the Olde Englishmen's trap of thinking that change is bad. What is wrong with the mini-counties falling by the wayside? Why do you think that a smaller number of larger clubs would struggle to locate talent for England? They get far more talent out of Australia with just six teams. The money's in TV, let's go for it with a quality competition. Then there'd be more cash for grassroots. The real issue is why I as an England fan should endure endless TV ads and pay exorbitant prices to sustain hundreds of mediocrities and to force some of the world's greatest sportsmen into the ignonominy of playing in front of a couple of fogeys and their dogs six days a week. County cricket is modern-day slavery, no wonder upper-class folk like it. If English cricket doesn't come up with something to rival IPL, you'll find your counties end up becoming a conveyer belt for India, not England. Posted by Frumps on July 16 2008, 19:43 PM GMT Dear, dear, dear, sad to see CMJ stuck in a 'timewarp'. How can one justify any longer the existance of bankrupt Counties (removing ECB subsidies) offering mediocrity played Journeymen (Robin ?) going nowhere. By concentrating what little talent exists in 18 Counties into 9, with a limited number of overseas players, and the Indian format of 4 u.21's per team will create an exciting and viable format. It will attract much needed funds to a) pay our top stars 'real' money and b) share the proceeds among ALL Counties pro rata to the contribution (in terms of players) they make to the competition. Hopefully this would be an incentive for each County to increase the standard of their players, in turn getting more players selected for each competition. The 20 team format just announced by the ECB simply perpetuates the the dross dished out by the Counties week in week out. Frumps Posted by El_toro on July 16 2008, 18:17 PM GMT Speaking as a Worcestershire and England supporter, I really hope that this is the start of a process in which five or six of the wealthier counties pull away from the others and form their own league. There are simply too many teams operating at the top level in English cricket. This means that the standard of cricket is poor, and players produced by the system are not able to compete with those of Australia. What we need is for there to be a level in between county cricket and test cricket, and the only way for this to happen is for the wealthier teams to pull away. Posted by uknsaunders on July 16 2008, 17:48 PM GMT Yet another person living in the past. When CMJ bleats on about history he conviniently forgets that many people (and businesses) are denied watching first class cricket by history. The Thames Valley area of the UK is one of the most heaviest populated and richest parts of the UK and yet doesn't have a first class county but by luck of history the likes of Gloucester do! I'm sure other places in england are more deserving that some of the current 18 lottery ticket holders. A re-drawing of the map, in any shape or form might of increased crickets popularity and sponsorship. Maybe CMJ would like to lecture someone at any of the Slough/Reading cricket clubs about why they shouldn't have first class cricket.... Posted by RUSTOM on July 16 2008, 13:22 PM GMT Good job, CMJ - but I have an intresting solution to this premier league chaos. First of all, all the 18 counties must be retained. Then of course, one most realise that cricket is changing - a cricketer's pay packet, even after the IPL, is mere peanuts compared to Woods, Beckham and Bryant. So I don't think there is any harm in allowing cricketers to play for a sum more than what they normally get paid. The EPL must be structured on IPL lines, with all big stars, icon players and should be staged at a wholly different time slot so as to not clash with any of the T20 leagues including the IPL. This will enable a cricketer to play in the EPL, IPL and his national league without any commotion. I personally feel that more T20 leagues will be more beneficial to the modern-day cricketer, as well as some unnoticed talents from associate nations. tests should be preserved, but T20 should be made the staple form instead of ODI'S. Then only will cricket be made into a global sport. Posted by bellys_gonna_get_ya on July 16 2008, 09:48 AM GMT CMJ I fear we are following a well trodden path here. You only have to look at the state of English football to see the financial chasm that has opened between the elite Premier League teams and those in the lower leagues. The disproportionate sharing of revenues has led to many clubs struggling to stay afloat and plenty falling into receivership alongside the failure to invest sufficiently at grass roots level. I fear that English cricket could head the same way if theses proposals come to fruition. Once the franchises are formulated and the tournament begins it will be an undoubted success and leave players, owners and sponsors wondering if there is still a need for county cricket at all in its current format. Posted by ashwin_547 on July 16 2008, 09:38 AM GMT i dont understand the point of overseas players? it completely reduces the need for local and homegrown talent. cricket truly is evolving. EPL must be formed however, it is one of the few ways to make cricket truly global. Posted by guptavipulv on July 16 2008, 09:16 AM GMT To resist change, any kind of change, is human. I am not as well versed with the English county system as I am with Indian Cricket. There were many so called lesser cricketing centers in India which went unrepresented in the IPL such as UP, MP, Bihar, Goa , Baroda Jammu etc. But on the other hand we had players who have been playing for these teams for many years but never got the recognition which they deserved, the best example being Asnodkar and Y Pathan from the victorious Royals. At least in theory the BCCI is supposed to distribute its profits with all its members. I do not think that this would be such a bad move at all.
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