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Posted by Dogevpr2 on August 10 2008, 14:32 PM GMT Whilst I might disagree with taking no action in Zimbabwe it's fitting that BCCI should strive to balance the longterm dominance by the Britsh and Australian of the ICC. Cricket not being in the Olympics is an example of a policy which does India (and Pakistan,Sri Lanka and Bangladesh) no good.There is Volleyball and Beach Volleyball but no cricket? If China can host the Olympics Cricket2012Games.com can't understand why the world would deny India,the world's largest democracy, the chance to win a Medal in cricket in 2012. As for the T20 IPL/ICL type leagues-they are great for the game and can happily coexist with Test cricket. It's also neccessary for the survival of the game as it faces competition from basketball,baseball and golf. Posted by michaelfernando on August 09 2008, 20:06 PM GMT IPLFan (Posted on Aug 8, 04:12 AM GMT) is correct. The time has come to move on from the country vs. country top level cricket. The cure for the imbalance is parity. Parity between teams, between population centers and what markets can sustain cricket teams. And, the top level of professional cricket needs a better structure. Once that happens, people will enjoy cricket for the game, not for the blind national pride. Expanded articles are at: http://inningsbreak.blogspot.com/ and http://blogs.cricinfo.com/inbox/archives/2008/08/first_icl_now_wcl.php Posted by AsherCA on August 09 2008, 18:44 PM GMT ICC's treatment of India & Pakistan - 1. Human errors from ICC's "neutral umpires" against India every time Australia is in trouble. 2. Visible inconsistency from even match referees who simply ignore code of conduct violations by Aussie / WI / SA cricketers, but apply the toughest permitted penalty when Indians / Pakistanis are at apparently fault. There is inconsistency in evidence requirement also. Blatant code of conduct violations by Keppler Wessels, Andrew Symonds, Brian Lara, Ricky Ponting et al have been brushed under the carpet by ICC match referees who regularly hit Indians / Pakistanis with the toughest permitted penalties. 3. The whole world saw that Indian Harbhajan Singh was penalised by an ICC match referee without sufficient evidence the first time round. On review with more evidence, Harbhajan's offence was at par with that of an Australian. There is no penalty to the Australian, Indian Harbhajan has suffered a penalty. WHO IS BULLYING - INDIA OR AUSTRALIA ! Posted by Kirk-at-Lords on August 09 2008, 17:11 PM GMT Sometimes it takes a person with both wisdom and courage to identify the elephants (in this case both Indian and African) filling most of the room. Thanks to Osman Samiuddin for being that person. What is needed now is something beyond ICC action (if such a thing is even possible). Cricket needs a grand restructuring of its basic governance. Consider the case of the young USA, saddled with a hotch-potch "Confederation" government that was a laughingstock to its own citizens. The solution was a great Convention that produced a new Constitution. Having made no immense proposals recently, I herby offer one. Convene a Cricket Convention in Philadelphia USA, the birthplace of the US Constitution. Hold the Convention at America's one historically well-established cricket centre: Haverford College, which happens to be in Philadelphia. Have delegates from each cricketing nation (Test, Affiliates, Candidates, everyone!) attend. Let them create a "cricketing republic" worth keeping. Posted by jaskaranjw on August 09 2008, 15:50 PM GMT I fully agree with redneck here,IPL sucks(and I couldn't care less about ICL),I as an Indian am not hesitant to say it out loud. IPL was exciting for like the first week or so there was no national pride in it,I'd rather see a well contested Test match between India and Australia(which was way more exciting,controversial but exciting,than the IPL's..enough of them already). The recent test series between India and Sri Lanka has been far better cricketing experience for me and I feel that the upcoming ODI's(with SL) and the Test series(vs Australia) and the series against England would be exciting to watch as well. Although I fear that Modi is going to come up with some more idiotic plans in the near future which would include more crappy IPL and less international matches....I'd love to see 3 test matches,5 odi's maybe 3 T20 series as opposed to the two whole seasons of IPL. Posted by JackJ on August 09 2008, 13:14 PM GMT Osman sums up the situation well. That there are divisive forces in the ICC is obvious. I discern two major problems: Firstly the BCCI and India trying to dominate, and then the excessive hype over T20. T20 cannot be allowed to dominate or disrupt cricket. Being a purist, I see this format as naked money-making, in catering for non-cricket fans. Cricket was the favoured sport in India long before T20! The best way to handle it is to have all T20 controlled by the ICC and have one gap time when its played. Get the money-making over quickly. The other issue is more intractable. Just because England/Australia once dominated is no valid reason for India to try to follow suit! England invented cricket and they and Aus have by far the longest history in the game. In any case, these 2 long ago showed their maturity by giving up their ICC vetoes. Its time BCCI grew up and stopped trying to bully the others. If they don't, they will become outcasts! 2008 is not 1948, the world has moved on. Posted by asim1 on August 09 2008, 05:35 AM GMT I enjoyed reading the article , however i believe that the politics and the divide , are not always visible, and they tend to evaporate once the games actually begin...... clear the air, play cricket (well) and no one will care about what the boards are trying to do ... id like to remain oblivious to all of the nonsense , I'm a fan of cricket, not its administration. Posted by vswami on August 09 2008, 02:20 AM GMT Its incredibly funny to see whats happening now where every board wants to publicly attack BCCI and then send an official soon after to negotiate with BCCI to send a team over to play and earn some money. ECB takes the cake in this .. firstly denouncing all things organised by BCCI in the strongest terms and then begging BCCI to play in its Champions League. Its the biggest laugh I have had in recent times. Posted by fataquie on August 08 2008, 23:07 PM GMT Truth is always bitter, especially in ICC's case. I found Osman's article to be very balanced. But again, it seems people commenting on Osman's personality should either contribute to the discussion's topic as opposed to the writer's personality. Truth hurts and that is why, I believe most people commenting are making irrational comments on the writers personality......Where is the moderator? Posted by Sky-Walker on August 08 2008, 22:59 PM GMT I like the way Osman writes as most of the time he provides true picture of what is going on in Pakistan team as he has more information and knowledge about each player and their culture. However in the above article I did not get clearly what he wants BCCI to do ?, can he explain little bit what he meant by " Grace and Humanity" Is Indian team disgraceful and inhuman ? What does he meant by "righting of past wrongs"? Is BCCI not working with other Boards ? Are they arrogant to other boards ? Yes, they are very very arrogant to ICL , to media , to other state associations but not to other Countries as they need players for IPL! . If any other reader picked up Osman's mind pl. pl. explain it to me the meaning of the above ,thanks.
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